tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5494982732055741585.post5231821410776747944..comments2024-02-02T18:00:39.258-08:00Comments on On The Record: THE MC5 - KICK OUT THE JAMS (1968 promo version)RichardSibellohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17543114830570878541noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5494982732055741585.post-46234625440658383102014-07-11T04:29:24.612-07:002014-07-11T04:29:24.612-07:00If it's mint, about 75 bucks.If it's mint, about 75 bucks.RichardSibellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17543114830570878541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5494982732055741585.post-32248733701792672322014-03-27T17:05:19.396-07:002014-03-27T17:05:19.396-07:00I HAVE THE SAME VERSION,PREVIEW PRESSING FOR BROTH...I HAVE THE SAME VERSION,PREVIEW PRESSING FOR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF MC5<br />Do you know his correct valu?<br />Thanks<br />GiovanniAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943705316548393633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5494982732055741585.post-19705222781292796192011-10-18T08:59:47.778-07:002011-10-18T08:59:47.778-07:00@Anthony Harland - the differences between this on...@Anthony Harland - the differences between this one and Elektra 45648 - the mix on the vocals is clearer on the one I posted, the backing vocals in the third line of the song ("I Know how you want it child, hot quick and tight, the girls can't stand it when you're doin' it right") are mixed waaaay back, and the tape is slightly sped up. If you want, you can compare my version to the Elektra 45648 version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3TMuRGd3-0<br /><br />As for the whole "record companies release plastic, not the bands" thing, I agree with you that Elektra "thought business". But what I was saying was that the group CONSTANTLY spread the rumor that the "clean" version was released without their knowledge. Since the giveaway single was put out a few months before the LP, the group HAD to know that Elektra wasn't going to put "MF" on a record that they might have wanted to put on radio. <br /><br />I DO believe that the two singles (Elektra 45648 and this one) are the same recording, just mixed differently. And that the one I have is the better mix.<br /><br />BTW, the Five recorded this on October 30-31, 1968, not 1969.RichardSibellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17543114830570878541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5494982732055741585.post-82284550377599199602011-10-18T08:33:59.014-07:002011-10-18T08:33:59.014-07:00@ RPM REcords: Vinyl Oldies - yes, Yes, and YES!!!...@ RPM REcords: Vinyl Oldies - yes, Yes, and YES!!!! Couldn't agree more!!RichardSibellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17543114830570878541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5494982732055741585.post-3992391664378689342011-10-18T08:10:16.269-07:002011-10-18T08:10:16.269-07:00In 1969 when I first heard the MC5 they had no pre...In 1969 when I first heard the MC5 they had no predecessors.The music was progressive and volcanic.Just listening to them I felt a release of energy not experienced before while listening to music.Unless, of course you include an 8 year old with his ear to the radio listening to Little Richard for the first time. R&R & Rock is a musical form whose success relied heavily on spontaneity. It feeds off an energy that comes from within more so than out. The MC5 perpetuated the rawness of everything Rock and Roll was meant to be, a soulful progressive sound. I do not look upon them as Saviors or Political Revolutionaries of Rock . They did not possess the commercial or creative skills of The Beatles,but they were the culmination of everything that Rocked before them. They took music to a new level and gave it another direction which manifested in Hard Rock and Punk. I was lucky to catch them live in a relatively small venue in 1970 .I have never felt the intensity they gave in their performance before or after, even at CBGB'S in NYC. One thing I have learned listening to R&R all my life,it does not have to apologize for itself or give explanations.You either except it or change the station.RPM RECORDS: VINYL OLDIEShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12717135743263409070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5494982732055741585.post-33121514379677308082011-08-26T13:02:25.829-07:002011-08-26T13:02:25.829-07:00Right, I love the MC5 and I positively adore that ...Right, I love the MC5 and I positively adore that first album, and live they knocked me out, but I don't agree with anyone saying they were the greatest rock n roll band in the world, because there's no such thing. There are lots and lots of great bands and the MC5 was one of those. I don't blame you for getting pissed off at being preached to by those who write about them but don't knock the band because of that. <br /><br />Now we come to this single, so let's get the facts right. Jac Holzman got Bruce Botnick to record the MC5's concert on the 31st October '69 at Russ Gibb's Ballroom in Detroit. But he knew what could happen at a live concert, fluffed vocals , messed up guitar licks, so as an insurance the following day he got the band to record their concert again, in the same venue, non stop live but without the audience. That was how he recorded two versions of Kick Out The Jams, and knowing the problems he would have with airplay and sales he recorded the 'dangerous' and the 'safe' version. (It's record companies that release the plastic not the bands.) Three of the tracks that appeared on the LP were from the second day's recording but I don't know which ones. Before the LP was released Elektra issued the Kick Out The Jams single but with the safe "bothers & sisters" intro. I can't see Electra pressing up the "motherfucker" version just so the band can give it away. However, it wouldn't cost much to stick on some different labels and give them those. Also what would happen if the dangerous version wound up at a radio station ? No, too risky if the band wants a single give them the safe version. Think business :) <br /><br />When the LP was released, according to Jac Holzman's autobiography, Elektra pressed two versions (safe & danderous) and gave record stores the choice of which version they could have. <br /><br />Now the part of your comment that really intrigues me is when you say this single has "even MORE energy, more ferocious vocals from Tyner, it's got a better mix, and it's slightly faster!" I've listened to your version and it sounds to my ears exactly the same as my 1969 UK LP version. Have you got a copy of the single on Elecktra 45648 with which to compare it ? If it really is different then it suggests that they used a different day's recording for the official single than the version on the LP.<br /><br />Anthony HarlandAnthonyHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04076737671996224956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5494982732055741585.post-32053604022351039272011-01-09T12:28:33.198-08:002011-01-09T12:28:33.198-08:00Well put on the MC5. I dig em too, but geez- they ...Well put on the MC5. I dig em too, but geez- they were just bunch of stoned misguided hippies who could play their guitars well... <br /><br />I just found your blog today. Some choice tunage so far, keep em coming. Check out The Junk Shop Juke Box if you get the chance: http://wopbopaloobopalopbamboom.blogspot.com/<br />JeffRockin' Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020452320371670357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5494982732055741585.post-18385394674376481172011-01-08T13:51:40.198-08:002011-01-08T13:51:40.198-08:00Nice research and theory, Rich! I like and apprec...Nice research and theory, Rich! I like and appreciate the MC5, but they were never my favorite Detroit rock band. It's incredibly entertaining - and historically important - to go through the materials, look at the dates, and make conclusions about what might - or might not have - happened. <br /><br />Perhaps this track was recorded AFTER the well-known track, yet not released until later?Evan Z. Tothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12637546614689170982noreply@blogger.com